Yet you go into this anyway, knowing full well that it could-, "That is true. "This was a moment in German history," he says, "When Jews had a decent amount of freedom.". Radiolab is supported by Audible. Right? And it gets even more disturbing for my father as the conversation suddenly pivots to another victim. Stanley Milgram had four scripted prods that he wrote out for his experimenters. For much the same reasons. About; Blog; Projects; Help; Donate An illustration of a heart shape . I just needed to kill because of that. ", "Set deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench, you quench with their tears. Yes. Yes, it's awesome. And if they still were resisting or struggling, they'd get prod number three. If any sizeable fraction actually acted on their homicidal fantasies, the streets would be running- running red. So he sends a letter to the Ministry of Education resigning, and he leaves Germany. And you have a number of chemical reactions. This is Radiolab. Hi I'm Robert Krulwich. Would you really think that this guy's a good guy? I mean, it's a pretty big thing to miss. And to make the problems even more annoying. And he throws himself at one of the central issues facing Germany at that time. Also from Breslau. Would you really? Hi, my name is Josh, and I'm calling from Harlem, New York. I mean, that was makebelieve, but if you could somehow get a real Iago in the room and subject that person to questioning, and really get him to sort of fess up as to why they did it, would that make a difference? You better check in on him sir. But if you look at Milgram's work closely. There's a pause and my father just says. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter. Right. He actually was very humiliated, uh, that Germany had lost. And to make the problem even more annoying. And that was a question that had haunted my father for decades. The Green River murders terrorized Seattle in the 1980s. Thousands of people have done it before you. He's bald. I don't know, I would rather have scientists who carry doubt with them as they proceed, I-. Terms and conditions apply. "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" Um, with a black belt in karate. Yeah. Now you're saying actually that you could read that, that very dark fact, as being actually evidence of something quite- quite noble. And he believed it. Making him the most prolific serial killer in American history. Meaning, I mean, what- what- any idea what was in his mind? Like shocking an innocent stranger over and over. Members of his extended family did. I got those all at night, mostly. I don't think I ever had a fantasy that anatomically specific where I would see the part of the other person that I was going to stab or plan it like that. The whole thing happened several years ago. He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. Radiolab is a radio program produced by WNYC, a public radio station in New York City, and broadcast on public radio stations in the United States. The prods. And we end with the story of a man who chased one of the most prolific serial killers in US history, then got a chance to ask him the question that had haunted him for years: why? Alex Haslam, professor of psychology at the University of Exeter. Unusually so in those times. Especially when it came to one particular fact. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. And on their skins, as on the bark of trees, have with my knife carved in Roman letters, 'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'". But that's not what he found. And so I expanded the sample where we asked about 5,000 people-. Be right back. Um, this is one of the things that's, uh, this was one of the things that's sparked my interest in the topic of murder. He would dance around things. I actually did the first thing, but he saw my intentions and ran away." They couldn't deploy it. There's- there's a lot of-. Before the guy is cut to shreds, he's allowed to confess, "I heartily regret the fact that I killed the young maiden or defamed the king." He gets promoted to the rank of captain-. This is a 20 year old female. New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. But we will do it on our own if we think it's good.". Prosecution, [crosstalk 00:12:03] the Attorney General. What does he say? ", In Titus Andronicus, there's a character by the name of-, There's a moment in the play when Aaron gets up on stage, looks at the audience and says, "Let me just tell you the kinds of things I've been up to recently. But he is a large, very strong man with a black belt in karate. He has these pince-nez spectacles. And the, uh, really, really bad that is in, uh, some of us. The general's name is Othello. He's bald, he has a potbelly, he has these pince-nez spectacles, he's chomping on a Virginian cigar, he was always smoking these Virginian cigars and he's wearing a fur coat. Because Haber figured out a way to take nitrogen from the air, put it into the barren ground and grew wheat. All rights reserved. They will invariably say something like, "They show that people obey orders." Imagine how it feels to have an award-winning team by your side through the mortgage process. It's like a downloadable from the internet instant defense for doing wrong, but if you look at Milgram's work closely. Suspected that it could be upwards of 75. It's about how far would these people go. He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. Also from, uh, a Jewish family. So around the turn of the century for German scientists like Haber, this was the challenge. Natural deposits would be like seaweed or-, Actually two nations in South America went to war-. Is an absolute order. Is that nitrogen is [tryvalent 00:31:48]. And you like her. He could have never imagined that. You're bad. He started calling me a whore and told me he didn't love me anymore. And so he says that and you're like, "Okay, yes come over now. And it becomes Zyklon B, the killing gas of the concentration camps. Why does God allow this to happen? Podcasts; . Is an absolute order. We asked, "Who do you think about killing?" According to James, he is not the baddest-. I needed to kill her because that-. We did a show called The Bad Show. Well what is something's happened, the man had an attack or something there? And he ran them through something like what you and I just did. The questionnaires they filled out are part of the Milgram archive at Yale. I mean-. Shoots herself in the chest. We decided to shake things up at the show.bear with us. In a rage, uh, how? Alex Haslem, Professor of Psychology at the University of Exeter. Pat, go ahead. Um, could you just- just tell me, uh, the little story that you begin your book with? I mean, you know, it's just one of those things we've been bringing back shows that we think are just vibrating still in the world. Okay, one of those very tiny old fashioned pair of glasses that would pinch on your nose. with Lulu Miller, and Latif Nasser. Very distinctive looking man, bald on top, trim nice mustache, wore a little [pince-nez 00:28:20]. Okay. In 1962 Stanley Milgram shocked the world with his study on obedience. So you don't know? I invited him for dinner. And one of the first acts that the Nazis do is to basically issue an order that says there shall be no Jews in the civil service. So these are some word pairs. Next, we meet a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil: chemist Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel Prize in 1918around the same time officials in the US were calling him a war criminal. I mean-, So again, the baseline study is the one where 65 percent of the volunteers-, But in experiment number three, if they put the shock-ee in the same room-, With the shocker so the shocker could actually see the person that he's shocking-. Humans. You know, this was like oil is today. As soon as it did, soldiers began to convulse. Well what's the noble cause in this case? He was in this state of fury, he said, and instead of hitting his wife, he smashed his fist into the bathroom mirror, and then realized that he had to leave the house, or he was going to do damage to her. And they would circle yes or no. Listen Now. Thanks. According to James, he's not the baddest in Shakespeare or in life because ultimately the play offers up a reason for his nastiness. But he organizes soldiers, he organizes whole gas units. And why is it so important, do you think, to understand the why behind such an evil act? They continued shocking their corpses. He had an attack or something there. But in experiment number three, if they put the shockee in the same room with the shocker so the shocker could actually see the person as the shockee. 65%-, to shock their fellow citizens over and over again-. Well I can use that same process-. And that's all the difference in the world. We've got to know now. He seemed calm. Let's just finish this. God, 'cause it's like we started with this experiment that we all see as evidence of human's latent capacity of evil. You know what's going to happen if she pisses you off. I mean, I'm not suggesting one should, but I'm just saying there is a sense in which these people are prepared to do something that's very painful to them, and to someone else, because they want to promote science; well, you can see that's a good thing. This is Everybody was desperate for sources, new sources of nitrogen. Here it goes. ", Now, Haber was Jewish, but because he'd served in World War I-, But 75 percent of the people who worked for him at the institute, they were Jewish-, And says, "This is intolerable. Yes, this is one of the things that sparked my interest in the topic of murder. Eventually Iago convinces Othello that his wife has been disloyal; which she hasn't. Terms and conditions apply. Okay. But this was a moment in German history, he says, when Jews had a decent amount of freedom. We'll be right back [inaudible 00:31:42], let's just finish this series. But it wasn't until a few years later that he learned something that really put what happened that night into context. Take one. Each answer just begs another why. One that applies smart technologies at scale with purpose and expertise; not just for some, but for all. Or does everybody at some point have something dark in them? I would rather have scientists who carry doubt with them as they proceed. And once again, another nitrogen compound. But there's a fellow. That's correct, because it takes such energy and pressure to separate it, its trivalent bond is so strong that when it comes back together, that energy is released, it can be used for life or death. Well, you know, you can see that's a good thing. Have you ever thought about killing someone? Within minutes, the gas reached the allied side. That was just for those of you haven't heard it yet, this is a kind of a rush through a- through sex reproduction. And he goes home for a few days. This is a continuation of an interview with Gary Leon Ridgeway. But harbor saw it as a wonderful success, and wished that the Germans had been better prepared to exploit it, because he felt they really could have made a terrific advance if they had had more confidence. The Bad Show. Well if the idea is that people will do bad if they think it's good, if it's a good noble cause. We want what Elizabethan's got at the scaffold, which was a confession. I was just astonished. And every scenario produced a different result. And he spends five years and a futile effort-, Sounds insane. It's like playing dirty. If those two participants refused to go on. Don't- don't the man's health mean anything? So, how do you feel about him now? "Well, why can't you deal with it in a normal way?" And then, it was several hours later in the middle of the night that I got the call. Zyklon A, which was originally just a pesticide-. Could you just tell me the little story that you begin your book with? She was one of the first women to earn a PhD in her country. After all, he knows what he can stand. In a lab at Yale University with a bunch of regular Americans. We thought that maybe as- as we turn a corner ourselves, we should refresh. That allows an individual to act inhumanely? ", Now you're saying actually that you could read that very dark fact as being actually evidence of something quite-, Well if you dressed up, and if you just had some minor variance to the paradigm you could, presumably, make this up. Yeah. Today's date is, uh, June 17th. People like director Sam Mendez, musicians Jean Batiste, and Wynton Marsalis, Call Your Girlfriends [inaudible 00:27:12], and our very own Alec Baldwin. Next, we meet a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil: chemist Fritz Haber, who won a Nobel Prize in 1918around the same time officials in the US were calling him a war criminal. I've been thinking about him for the better part of a year as you know. He figured maybe one percent of these men would keep flicking the switches, up to the highest voltage. In that, "Why?" It has enough what they used to call then solar energy. Hey, I'm Jad Abumrad. And isn't this a good thing that we have people in our society who are willing to make sacrifices for a greater- the greater good? That afternoon, he gets in his car, goes home, he finds my mom on the deck, sits down next to her. Hi, this is Lauren from Winnipeg. Clara, also from Breslau, also from a Jewish family. As we continue listening to the Bad Show episode on human nature, our neighbors and ourselves, check out the Blank Slate by Steven Pinker available on Audible. Three, two, one. And Iago-, He refuses what we fully expect, and what everybody on stage, at that moment, fully expects from him. Said- said, "Yes, I've thought about killing someone.". They're not doing something because they have to, they're doing it because they think they ought to. Yeah, members of his extended family did; certainly friends of his did. And even though, in the end, they got him to confess to these 49 murders, they never really get any closer to an answer than this first one. Direct your voice to the microphone in the room. So, you ask like, why do people do bad things? These little nitrogen atoms will fiercely hold together and it's almost impossible to pry them apart. It is a fair question to ask what are the conditions under which you or me or any of us could do-. What kind of tech company does the world need today? So, I'm just going to go into this other room over here. [inaudible 00:59:10] I went back one time before and [inaudible 00:59:13] that I Like I said, I got to give it out, can't keep holding it in. And then, walks away from his child and his wife dead in the garden and says-. However, that leaves behind 20 million Germans. And, uh, she had got a disgusted look on her face and said that he was up in the bedroom. You can see this in the surveys that the men filled out after the experiments were over. He brings her up as an example of a- of a woman that he actually had strong feelings for. If you think that science is worth pursuing, you say, "Okay. And I devoted one class session to the topic of homicide and why people kill. He would deny things, he would obscure, he would dance around things. Any time the experimenter said, "You must continue" the shocker would say, "Hell no, I don't.". Because this room's echo-y. And 84% of the women. And so, I went up to the bedroom and he was, you know, in a rage. The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex-boyfriend doesn't know that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. Y-P-R-E-S, Actually the Americans called it [inaudible 00:36:42]. Really, that story's been told a million and one times for the last 50 years, we've just got to get over it. The authoritative record of New York Public Radios programming is the audio record. They've got a very plausible, very credible, high status scientist at high status scientific institution. I'm going to give you a little, uh (laughing). You know, energy from the sun to grow crops. Walk- walk away. We don't exactly know why. When did he live, and what did he look and that kind of stuff? Just because of a mathematical summing up. But if you put two experimenters in the room, and-. He loves the fatherland, and he loves Germany. "Research in any field is a must, particularly in this day and age." Which is a fairly small-ish sort of town, and so does Clara. Hundreds of them were falling to the ground. And as it happens, my father has very vivid memories of investigating the Carol Christensen murder. And shortly after his return, Clara, allegedly, confronts him and says, "Look, you are morally bankrupt. He's bad. The good Iago who makes you want to shower the minute you leave the theater 'cause you are sullied by him. There's a lot of black and white thinking happening right now. So Stanley Milgram actually begins these experiments-. Leaving a son, a- a- alone with his dead mother. If those two participants refused to go on-, Saying like, "I don't want to kill a guy. And now that we're sort of just on the other side of that. And they're saying, "Have you checked out Job? And in the other room, there was a guy, who he called the learner, who was supposed to have memorized some words. Is that how you say that thing-. I'm Robert Krulwich. I got to tell you, I'm not totally comfortable that you're providing all of the information [inaudible 00:57:52]-. He has a podcast. That the earth couldn't support this many people. But if looked at from another perspective, there's a sense in which you could celebrate what they're doing. Sounds insane. That's like an adult blue whale of chlorine. Because the thing that you put into the ground to grow more food is also the thing you can explode to make a bomb? He recruited a bunch of subjects. Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. What's the noble cause in this case? What follows is this ongoing conversation between Job and his friends about why does this happen? I mean, that's a pretty heady thing for, you know, a Jewish kid from Breslau to be hobnobbing with the Emperor and cabinet ministers. So you're saying they were shocking these people because they thought it was worthwhile? We begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and 84% of women, have fantasized about killing someone. And to this day they have not talked about that day. Do you think that more studies of this sort should be carried out?" Come over now.". And you tell us, "Actually, you know under some circumstances, we don't do the bad thing we're told to do because, here's another flip, we don't have to be told. It's 9:24 hours on June 17th, year 2003. If this is the singular moment in Shakespeare where he gives you an un-understandably evil man, no motives, no reason; any idea what the hell he was intending? If you breathed it in, it sort of irritates your lungs to the extent that they sort of fills up with fluid so quickly that you sort of drowning in your own phlegm. I can't quite place him-. Okay? Let's begin with this story from our producer, Pat Walters. And so Satan, basically, systematically destroys Job's life. Oh, that right there, slap some quotations around that. Do you leave this experiment in a light mood or in a dark mood overall? All right, just to back up for one second. The show is nationally syndicated and is available as a podcast. So every day, they would bring them into this conference room-, This is a continuation of an interview with Gary Leon Ridgeway-. So, I heard this one from this guy named David-. Was it nice day, nice sky, nice job, or nice chair? And while you're doing that, just give me your finger. And, "Well why the rage?" She just burst my eardrums (laughs). He could do anything. Is there a way to explain why some people act the way they do and others don't?". He's standing there on the front, pushing the gas into the lungs of other human beings, admittedly, it's a ware, but still. [2] No. So, Jeff wrote this book because his father, Tom Jensen, was one of the lead detectives tracking Gary Ridgeway. Obedience droops to about 40 percent [inaudible 00:15:40]. So, these are some word pairs. And in the trial, when the prosecutors, essentially, ask him how you came to commit genocide he would say, over and over again-. Just a little glimmer. ", "We'll basically bring it to the front and when the- when the wind is right, we'll just spray it.". In fact, his chemist had given this particular pesticide a smell. Wasn't satisfied [inaudible 01:01:21] maybe mad 'cause she was very much in a hurry. I'm about to help this quest for knowledge, I really want to do a good job.". Then suddenly the thought occurred to me that my life would be much happier without him in existence.". That allows an individual to act inhumanely-, It's like a downloadable from the internet; instant defense for doing wrong. And he ran them through something like what you and I just did. So he plans to destroy Othello. This is Radiolab and today talking about? Now, why don't you just- what do you remember since we last talked in this interview? Uh, she, uh, expressed disapproval about his, um, clothing choices. But the generals were not all that convinced. And I heard about him from science writer, Sam Kean. At least not with a tremendous amount of energy. Oft have I digged up dead men from their graves and sit them up right at the dear friend's door. And so, 1918 Fritz Haber gets a Nobel Prize, but this is why he's such an interesting guy. [inaudible 00:59:42] Christensen. He goes straight to the German [inaudible 00:36:56] and- and he pitches this idea. "The experiment requires that you continue.". And when you stick a seed like weed seed in the ground-. This is Radio Lab, and today elements. On the other hand, I mean, if you look at the grand calculus, people he's helped or fed, versus people he's killed, I mean he's fed billions of people. Telling a friend he felt like he'd lost his homeland. He just kind of went crazy. Of course, normally you just have one experimenter who's giving you these instructions. So, I'm going to talk to you over this intercom, okay? This story made us wonder, "Is David's friend-". Where . There's trench warfare. My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some RadioLab credits. He's a master planner. And it's a craft, but it's a craft with consequences, and to approach it with kind of crazy joy? He takes over leadership of this institute in Berlin, and he starts hobnobbing with a whole different level of society. I'm almost done, guys. Well, there's something distasteful about the fact that he was too into it, but I do think on some level you have to divorce the man from his deeds. All rights reserved. Suddenly I'm thinking this is actually a darker interpretation-. If I don't leave my house right now, I'm going to kill her." Especially because she found out he was leaving the next day to direct more gas attacks. What makes a bad person so bad that he's different from the rest of us? Mm-hmm (affirmative). Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. Would you really think that this guy's a good guy? With higher and higher voltage. You mean they're looking at 20 million people going hungry? Mm-hmm (affirmative), Mm-hmm (affirmative). I'm going to take a break. He's standing there on the front pushing the gas into the lungs of other human beings. Search metadata Search text contents Search TV news captions Search radio transcripts Search archived web sites Advanced Search. You're telling us all this. And you find yourself in a situation where you've got to do something that's hard. The first victims of the Green River killer were found in the summer of 1982. On the other hand, if anyone could do it-. Wow. That's Stanley Milgram talking about the experiment in a film in case you've never heard of this. But every time the experimenter pulled out the fourth prod And this was confirmed when the experiment was redone in 2006; total disobedience. With help from Adam Cole, Rachel James, and Matt [Kielty 01:07:25]. I invited him for dinner and as he was in the kitchen looking stupid peeling the carrots to make salad, I came up to him laughingly, gently so that he wouldn't suspect anything. Those who could still breathe would turn blue. Yeah, I agree with that. And this is necessary in order to advance our noble cause.". We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. 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