That generation had begun to pass. Evidently, he thought that he could win back his kingdom if he zealously did God's will. It would have been the answer. he put the Gibeonites to death. If the Gibeonites brought guile and deceit into the land; it was Saul who set the example for deep and devastating I Samuel 14:52 Now there was fierce war with the Philistines all the days of Saul. 1 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year. You might say a whole cycle of generations. We want them to reflect what a real person would do in extreme or extraordinary circumstances. Hebrews 11 exhibits a whole chapter of men and women just like us who, despite their humanity and frequent foibles, fought the good fight of faith and were victorious in the end through the grace of God. They decided to fight with the Gibeonites and teach them a lesson. Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. The Gibeonites were not Israelites, but the remnant of the Amorites, which Saul pursued from within Israel. When this righteous ruler turned to God, the Lord showed him that arrogant error of his predecessor. Lets be clear from the very beginning, David was kind to Mephibosheth for his father Jonathans sake (2 Samuel 9:1). Mephibosheth was only five ye Leviticus 26:18-20 And after all this, if you do not obey Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. David represents usJoe Church Membertrue Christians in a time of spiritual famine, much like what Amos describes in Amos 8:11, with the famine of the word. God tells us that, spiritually, we have to go and wipe them out. King Saul later broke the treaty that Joshua had signed and attacked the Gibeonites. Later still, during the time of King David, a famine occurred in Israel. When David asked the Lord about the famine, God said, It is on account of Saul and his blood-stained house; it is because he put the Gibeonites to death (2 Samuel 21:1). The Bible doesnt really say. This is taken from the book Antiquities of the Jews, pg. 7: AFTER this, when the country was greatly afflicted with a He was not thinking spiritually. Jerusalem is almost directly west a few miles, but it is quite high from the Jordan to the Jerusalem. If you read Psalm 51 it is very clear that he understood his own makeup. But, you would think that after two years you would get the idea that this was not breaking. WebSaul, Israel's first king thought he knew better than God. He was thinking about a lot of other things. This is certainly not the David of Psalm 34, where he wrote. It takes into consideration things like accidental death, and premeditation. ", If you are on your spiritual game, and famine is occurring in your land, do you wait three years until thousands may have died? Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. He keeps his word even to his own disadvantage and does not change it [for his own benefit] (Psalm 15:1, 4; AMP). by LeRoy Gardenier He was humble and relied on God, and was granted many victories over Israels enemies. Things started to go downhill over time however, as Saul became presumptuous and arrogant; he ignored several direct commands of God, and the last straw came when he interfered in offering a sacrifice to God, in direct contravention of what hed been told to do. We are getting toward the end of King David's life. You shall make no covenant with them nor show mercy to them. Deep and long lasting trouble for both parties - both the Israelites and the Gibeonites - was the fruit of this clever, but calamitous deception. He did not do a thing that a king or judge should do. WebTranslation Details for 2 Samuel 21:1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David enquired of the LORD. WebThe alliance with the Gibeonites lasted for centuries, until Saul - in his zeal (21, 2) - decided that the ancient covenant was no longer binding. There is nothing to give you any indication that God was involved in anything except the faminetrying to teach David a lesson. Saul had four sons. * Jonathanhe befriended David, died with Saul on Mount Gilboa * Abinadabdied with Saul on Mount Gilboa * Malchishuadied with And he gathered an army and attacked the Amalekites, and delivered Israel from the hands of those who plundered them. This cultural thing about wanting our heroes flawed is so deeply ingrained in us that we cannot imagine anyone going through life without sin. He was tired, and wanted to get it out of the way. DESTRUCTION AND CORRUPTION Guilt for sin is not hereditary. Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. So they answered Joshua and said, "Because your servants were clearly told that the LORD your God commanded His servant Moses to give you all the land, and to destroy all the inhabitants of the land from before you.". Matt 24:4/Mk 13:5/Lk 21:8. Even though the avenger of blood could kill the person if he caught him before he arrived at the city of refugewhat this verse is saying, here, is that if the nation follows through, and enlarges the lands by obeying God, He will designate more cities of refuge so that they are closer. But certainly, David was. They had a more bloody and violent systemwhich often led to blood feuds that may not ever end until a whole family or generation was gone. The Gibeonites actually lived only a few miles from Jericho, the Twelve Tribes' designated entry point to Palestine. It says a bit later that somebody told him what that woman was doing out there protecting the bodies of the slain men of Saul's house for the past six months and it was as though he said, "Oh really? We see in this little vignette that innocent people die; grief lingers forever; idolatry is committed; and the curse of famine continues; another harvest fails; and the land remains defiled; everything stinks of death. Today, I want to visit one of King David's lesser-known black marks, and draw some lessons from it at the end. Then they answered the king, "As for the man who consumed us and plotted against us, that we should be destroyed from remaining in any of the territories of Israel, "let seven men of his descendants be delivered to us, and we will hang them before the LORD in Gibeah of Saul, whom the LORD chose." We have to understand that the people of the land represent the things we need to overcomeour human nature and our problems; the world and its pulls to its ways; and Satan and all the ways that he tries to manipulate us. All I do know is that they do hold a solid place in world history and one of their offshoots or branches were the Gibeonites. Community answers are sorted based on votes. God would have said, "Kill them all!" Joshua 9:14-16 Then the men of Israel took some of their provisions; but they did not ask counsel of the LORD. WebOne of the mothers of the men hanged by the Gibeonites protected the bodies of Saul's sons from birds and wild beasts day and night. God isn't very pleased that these bodies have been exposed for six months against His law.". This shows that this portion of the story in II Samuel 21, hanging the bodies for six months or so, was an additional curse upon the land. We do know the Gibeonites were cutters of wood and drawers of water for the altar of God the tabernacle was at Gibeon. Joshua 9:22-24 Then Joshua called for them, and he spoke to them, saying, "Why have you deceived us, saying, 'We are very far from you,' when you dwell near us? 0 responses Whatever the case, it is very plain to me that he did not pay enough attention to this matter of the famine and drought, and the Gibeonites. Saul and the heir to the throne, his son, Jonathan, were killed in a battle with the Philistines, and by popular acclamation, David became the King of Israel. He resolved properlynot without a lot of death, with 70,000 dead in that plague, but at least he had the repentant attitude by the time it was over. God's correction may come a The verb is used in this sense with respect to Joshua's action toward the Gibeonites in Joshua 9:27, where cultic servitude is involved ("for the altar of the Lord"). WebThe consequences of Israels covenant with the Gibeonites were not short-term. The Gibeonites presented themselves to the invading Israelites, not as nearby neighbors, but as distant foreigners who lived in a far-off land. This was history now. Berean Literal Bible Acts 13:21. Instead of warfare and bloodshed, their weapons were guile and deceit. They do what their flesh tells them to dowhat Satan inspires them to want to doand they do it. Yet, the Bible specifically says in Hebrews 4:15 that He was without sin. King Saul would conscript them into the army, and off they would go in a bloodthirsty rage against somebody else. On the mammoth scene of world history this minor alliance would rank as a minute encounter. See? Therefore David said to the Gibeonites, "What shall I do for you? The choice by Adam and Eve in the garden was a sin, and they paid for it through death. King David came at it from a position of weakness, not of one who knew God's law and could answer these people from spiritual strength. The Gibeonites remained enemies and aliens to the household of God forever after. This famine has been going on for three years, year after year. The "Man of Steel" is just too perfect, too smart, and too invincible. It was certainly alive and well in Israel. But what actually did Saul do to the Gibeonites? The Bible does not provide us the details of this killing. I do not know. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. Once again, God's anointed was compelled to humble himself and his nation before a delegation of these servile Gibeonites. Then, they went after Jericho, and it fell. The Lord told them they had made a commitment to these people and they had to stand by it. There was not a cloud in sight and you are the king. So this zeal may not have carried good connotations (cf John 2:17) it was not zeal for God but zeal for man, an ongoing problem with Saul. This may have only been a couple of months later. But, they like the dark one because he is moody, and doing things not for quite the right reasons. EVIL'S ULTIMATE END. Gave 7 of Saul's sons to the Gibeonites. Where have you been, David? When He visits the iniquity upon successive generations, He is saying is that the results and curses that come automatically often go down a handful of generations. But they refused the offer. They wanted the God of Israel to take it in the eye. Justice seems to have been served. They probably went from Gibeon by some circuitous route so they did not come directly from the west where they actually lived. How many died in sicknesses? What we do inherit of their sin is consequences. To re-establish peace between the two tribes, David fulfills the Gibeonites request to sacrifice two heirs of Israels throne, Sauls sons and grandsons. He tried to come up with a compromise, and that was basically, "Whatever you want, you can have." Joshua and that generation did not do their entire job, and so they were stuck. Why was David so loyal to Saul after everything Saul had done to him? The Gibeonites presented themselves to the invading Israelites, not as nearby neighbors, but as distant foreigners who lived in a far-off land. However, this chapter drops a few hints about it. How far away was Gilgal from Gibeon? I think that this was a test from God, and David failed spectacularly, except in keeping his promise to Jonathan. II Samuel 21:1-14 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. II Samuel 21:1-14 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the L ORD. In their poverty and slavery the bowed but ever proud Gibeonites refused financial and other forms of compensation for the attempted genocide on their tribe. We can't withstand them. Rizpah, Lord Alfred Tennyson in 1878. I do not think that King David thought through the implications of this matter very well. He committed colossal sins that whole nations would be held in contempt for. This poor man cried out, and the LORD heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles. Their deceit, Israel's lack of vigilance and Saul's deep delusion caused God's people centuries of grief and embarrassment. Finally, after six or seven months, the rains came in their natural cycle. He was not really on the ball like he should have been. The person who commits a sin is guilty of that sin, and God punishes that person for that sin. Finally the light came on, and David said, "I had better ask what is going on here. I dont think it was a matter of God allowing the Gibeonites to put to death Sauls sons. But, he did not. In 2 Samuel 21, we read of the tragic repercussion that followed when King Saul didnt honor the covenant and murdered some Gibeonites. Joshua 9:3-6 But when the inhabitants of Gibeon heard what Joshua had done to Jericho and Ai, they worked craftily [remember that], and went and pretended to be ambassadors. There is a difference. Their special, if dishonest, dealings with the leaders of Israel gained them a notoriety that most of the tribes and clans of the ancient Mid-East never attained. They made their dust-covered clothes to look worn and ragged as if they had been on the road for many days, even months. Her actions made David realize that he had violated another of God's commands by leaving the bodies of Saul, Jonathan, and the seven other sons unburied. They may not have been involved at all, depending on how early in Saul's reign this event took place. Saul was thirty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned for forty -two years over Israel. It must have been a satisfactory solution from Gods point of view, because he sent the rain on the land after the measures had been taken. He will not relent. Yet, because of the long time that has passed since then until now, when the Gibeonites were asked to bring it up, how many of the guilty ones had died? Can we assume that God was in any way propitiated at the conclusion of this story? And then King David inquired of the Lord. Then, pray for all you are worth so that your relationship with God and Jesus Christ is strong when the famine hits. Is that what happened?" Even so, maybe there were even worse problems, perhaps, and David was blind to them for three years. This would be in the spring during or after the Days of Unleavened Bread. If the Gibeonites brought guile and deceit into the land; it was Saul who set the example for deep and devastating delusion. He just let the natural cycles take their course. I think he was distracted by all the cares of his office of being king. 6. Deceit and delusion are powerful spiritual weapons of destruction but they pale in potency compared to the creative and edifying Word of God come alive by faith in believers' hearts! Their representatives were not up front with the Israeli leaders. Does the Bible encourage the practice of Lent? God has torn the kingdom from you. God sent the rain, it says specifically, "from heaven," verse 10, "in the latter rains," which is their normal cycle. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he. I will do it." So they fell, all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest. Joshua kept his word to the Gibeonites even when it was inconvenient. King David was compelled to hand over his own people to the power of Israel's ongoing enemies. Now that we have established that there was a horrible massacre at some point in the past, remember there was sin, and there was a crime committed. Verse 1 did say that it was "Saul and his bloodthirsty house" who had massacred the Gibeonites. He did not perform any miracle, or any other thing to show that He was happy with the way that things turned out. Webzeal of king Saul - who was a Benjaminite - against the Gibeonites. As we get to about verse 32 in Hebrews 11, Paul says that he does not have time to get to all the other heroes of faith that the Bible gives us. But the consequences of their sinswhat it means to us; what happened because of their sinstill affects us today. Saul committed a great crime against Gibeon and the Gibeonites. WebMany centuries later (the period from the exodus of Israel to the reign of Saul is generally considered to be about 400 years), Saul came to the throne in Israel. "No, we don't do things like that in Israel. We are not finished with that yet, because, who were the Gibeonites? Except for verse 21, there is very little mention of God in the whole episode. Then they were able to pick up the pieces of their lives and move forward by the strength that God gave them to overcome and to grow, and to put on the mindthe characterof Christ. Who was the father of Mephibosheth? And we are supposed to be ready. Why did Herod like to listen to John the Baptist, who criticized Herods lifestyle? These cagey enemies of God's people were destined to be destroyed, so they devised a simple, but clever scheme to deceive Israel in the hope of saving their own necks. God spared them as a people, but His nation condemned them to endless servitude. ", God answered immediately, "It is because of Saul and his bloodthirsty house. The Bible tells us that after Saul's death God sent a famine into the land mainly to get the attention of Saul's successor, King David. They got a couple of their men, maybe elders, and got them to appear like they came along distance. I think he was looking at Adonijah and Solomon, and seeing the positioning for the throne, and he just wanted to throw up his handsflee like some bird (Psalm 139). There is not much wiggle room in all this. The Jewish Encyclopedia asserts that one group of rabbis felt that Saul's punishment at God's hands is a sign of his weak moral character whose only virtue was being tall and handsome. They were probably in middle age, 45-60. That is the background on the Gibeonites, and their relationship with Israel. Web16 And it happened at the end of three days, after they had made a covenant with them, that they heard that they were their neighbors who dwelt near them. However there is nothing in the text that indicates he did this. Most, if not all, of those responsible were dead. Let his blood be on us and on our children., Perhaps the Gibeonites are a type of the inclusion of the gentiles Romans 9:22-24. WebThe designation Nethinim is derived from the Hebrew verb natan ("to give over"), which can mean devoting someone to cultic service. Perhaps if I go and kill all the Gibeonites like Joshua was supposed to do, maybe God will let me back into the chair.". Then there are things of degeneracy. In 1 Samuel 10, Saul first tries to kill David by straight up pinning him to the wall with his spear, but David dodges twice. So the king took Armoni and Mephibosheth, the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bore to Saul; and the five sons of Michal [Merabsee margin of most Bibles] the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite; and he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the LORD. Let me ask God about this. Then they asked for a king, and God gave them Saul son of Kish, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, for forty years. Although he had peace at this time, I think he was worried because they just had two successive rebellions, and were almost to the point of victory over King David until they were eliminated. And the Gibeonites said to him, "We will have no silver or gold from Saul or from his house, nor shall you kill any man in Israel for us." They were the five sons of Merab, Saul's daughter. After 7-10 years of war, David has solidified his empire Mar 2, 2022. Israel and Judah," who may have fretted at the inconvenience of having the Gibeonites among them. There are so many things I have got to do.". That the famine continued indicates God displeasure with David's decision and inner motives. He did not negotiate at all. David was annonted by Sammuel Apr 10, 1035. This was a long time ago. Saul became a bit strange in the head after this, if you will remember. Saul also had sound state reasons for his action, for the Gibeonites were occupying an enclave in the very The Gibeonites achieved their short term goal - survival; but they paid a terribly long term price for it - virtual slavery! Seven of Sauls descendants were hanged as a result. ", Or even after two years. & "Take heed that you be not deceived." And the Lord said, "There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gibeonites to death. Therefore, your kingdom is taken away and given to another. Webdid mika hakkinen win a championship; cosmic casino no deposit bonus 2022; natwest financial calendar; south bay christmas events; when did saul slew the gibeonites. King Saul (and his house?) If a person sins, he receives God's judgment for those sins. WebThe Gibeonite Deception - Now when all the kings west of the Jordan heard about these thingsthe kings in the hill country, in the western foothills, and along the entire coast of the Mediterranean Sea as far as Lebanon (the kings of the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites) they came together to wage war against Joshua and Saul, after having disqualified This incident appears in time sequence toward the end of his life. It does not require at all times that a person guilty of bloodshed die. So they performed all that the king commanded. After that, they had their problems at Ai, and figured out that Achan was responsible for that. We don't hear much of the Gibeonites again until the reign of King Saul. Perhaps the Scriptures are contrasting the faithless actions of Saul and his house in regard to the covenant with the Gibeonites, with the faithful actions of David in regard to the covenant with Jonathan. It would take three or four generations for perversion to be kicked out of a society. Jeiel, Sauls great-grandfather, was the progenitor of the Gibeonites ( 1 Chron 8:29-33; 9:35-39 ), so Saul slaughtered his own relatives! He made huge errors in judgment, both personally and in a larger sense. God took the initiative in this matter, by afflicting the nation of Israel with a famine because the house of Saul had put the Gibeonites to death. Based on this principle, I think we can be confident that justice was carried out in this very nasty incident, even though we are not told all the details of what happened. I will break the pride of your power; I will make your heavens like iron and your earth like bronze. By deluding himself that he could solve any problem; by presuming that the end justifies the means; by deliberately countermanding clear and specific orders from the Most High God; Saul not only failed to remove an evil people from the land, he also guaranteed the ultimate destruction of his own family. I know that is how I always read itas straight historyand I did not think about it very much. But it appears at least 40, maybe 50 years in the past. God did not necessarily overlook all their sins, but He certainly forgave them. Who are the twenty four elders that John foresaw? He had to sit there and judge people with all the little things they constantly brought up to him that seemed to need his decision on. He simply folded, giving the Gibeonites everything they wanted. That is how we overcome the dearth of the truth and the dearth of righteousness in our day. * 1 Samuel 18:12 KJV And Saul was afraid of David, because the LORD was with him, and was departed from Saul. * 1 Samuel 18:15 KJV Wherefore when S There are references to the Lord, but they are not references in a spiritual sense. WebThe Gibeonites Hang Saul's Descendants 21 While David was king, there were three years in a row when the nation of Israel could not grow enough food. So he brought up the bones of Saul and the bones of Jonathan his son from there; and they gathered the bones of those who had been hanged. The "Great Debate" between Nixon and Kennedy had not occurred yet. So he said, "Whatever you say, I will do for you." Think of it as if it were today. The consequences are not the guilt. What did David do to end the famine caused by Saul breaking a treaty with the Gibeonites? 5. Exodus 20:4-6 You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. In effect, what they wanted to do was hang the bodies of Saul's family in Saul's hometown in sight of Jerusalem. The two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul ( v.8 ) How many wars were fought? WebA famine lasting three years hit Israel during the earlier half of David 's reign at Jerusalem. He received good marks in Scripture. THE BATTLES OF THE LORD Ezekiel 18 makes it clear that God punishes people for their own iniquity. The higher the vote, the further up an answer is. Evidently, this is what Saul and most of his family was like, except Jonathan. Moreover you shall take no ransom for the life of a murderer who is guilty of death, but he shall surely be put to death [he cannot buy his way out]. 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